MBTI: Keirsey’s Intuitive Bias

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It was kind of a shock to me to find out a lot of people blame David Keirsey for the type community’s preference for Intuitives over Sensors. You know what I’m talking about, and it gets made fun of on here pretty regularly. The idea that Intuitives are not only more rare, but that rarity in turns also helps to make a more unique individual that can not only do what you do- but do it better and with time to spare.

Now plenty of people will claim they don’t have a bias against Sensors when that’s simply not true. And supposedly, Keirsey is a major reason for this. Well, that’s crap.

Alright let’s get this out there that the bias is real. Real, I TELL YOU!

"Yout think I'm CRAZY? YOU THINK I'M CRAZY?!"

“Yout think I’m CRAZY? YOU THINK I’M CRAZY?!”

But it mostly exists in the form of your own preferences. If you’re an ESTP, you don’t want to be an ENTJ, if you’re an INFP you probably don’t wish you were an ISTJ. They’re called preferences because you naturally prefer them, be it sensing over intuition or judging over perceiving, yada yada yada.

Then there’s the bias that has online types claiming superiority over others as though their type is naturally better no matter what they do and you should probably just deal with that. Everbody has it in them to be this way but as we know, you have no face on the internet and people can just go crazy with this built up image of themselves and try their damndest to make you believe it. These are the people I’ll generally mock even though many never realize they are the perpetrators. Never easy to see our own problems, is it? Not to target any individual, INTJs, INFJs, and INFPs seem to be the worst online about this, with certain Sensing types playing their part in the stupidity as well. Though real life and certain interactions online have continually let me know that it’s not they type itself that would have people spewing their trash rhetoric nonstop- the problem is that individual.

These are the people that claim their Intuition or Sensing (They treat it as almighty all the same) allows them a sort of precognition of the events around them and practically know what’s going to happen before it happens. These are also the people I imagine to have no life outside of the internet. The internet is a huge part of people’s lives these days, but it’s good to get outside for some vitamin D and socializing every once and a while. Scary, I know, but I have faith in you.

So how does Keirsey tie into this? Well, many people attribute the bias, specifically the intuitive-favoring bias to his own work. His work claims that Intuitives, on average, are much more rare for starters. What would this mean? That being less of a commodity makes you more unique, and therefore more desirable. Y’know, like a diamond or that single released copy of Wu-Tang’s newest album.

ODB really was a diamond though.

ODB really was precious though. Like a diamond.

But from my experience, it’s true. Intuitives are more rare. But there are rare strains of certain lethal viruses also, that doesn’t mean you want to die from it. I’m not calling Intuition a virus (Some might), but calling something rare as a fact doesn’t make it a bias, it’s just what’s true. It’s up to people to do what they want with the information. I’ve never read Keirsey mention Intuition being a “better” preference than Sensing and those around me, familiar with Keirsey’s work, didn’t pick that up either. Then I get on this big ol’ internet thing and people are slamming his work left and right. And not just due to a so-called bias, but to his work being based off more of behaviorism than anything else.

GUYS. THIS IS HOW MBTI IS FORMED IN THE FIRST PLACE. YOU GET OUTSIDE AND YOU LEARN. Reading a million sites and all the books you can get your hands on will only teach you so much. No, going to your desk at work, avoiding interactions with others as much as you can and basing all of your ESTJ experience on your boss isn’t enough.

Another thing I want to get out there, and I’ve said this before but other than comments I can remember no specific article…are the names Keirsey gave the types.

You know exactly where this is going.

Come with me.

Come with me.

Look, when I first got into this stuff, yes, I dismissed anyone with an INTJ result because Keirsey dubbed them “Masterminds,” something many have feverishly clung to during their time on forums and subreddits. They’ll say they don’t when it’s brought up, but every other post tells us otherwise. I’m not attempting to incessantly mock INTJs, nor INFJs, or any type as a type. I’m just bringing up those that attempt to use MBTI as a way of validating how they live and choose to be without ever needing to change. As if not changing is such a great thing that’s proven your way of life has always been the “best” way. A lot of other types (mostly Intuitive) will turn their actual flaws into how quirky they are and they’re so difficult to understand rather than trying to figure out how to change even though it’s right in front of them.

The point, ultimately, is that a name is a name. You could say Inspector for ISTJs is bland and boring while something like Mastermind or Architect is way cooler and it “doesn’t even fit those neckbeards!” but what does it matter when you get down to what the words actually mean? It doesn’t. Because, as I mentioned in a recent comment” Mastermind really just means “planner, organizer” and that’s what INTJs do, whether or not they act on them. We’ve come to associate the word with brilliantly laid-out foolproof schemer designed by a genius. That’s pretty all fiction. Trust me, I know about fiction.

So what do we do? I really don’t think the answer is to get away from what Keirsey, as well as others, have laid out but to change our own understanding of things. What’s the problem? Ego too big? I’ll never understand how people get into MBTI while disagreeing with every description of their claimed type. Nor do I get how anybody gets interested in this, only to try and change the fundamentals to something that’s supposedly easier to understand. No, man. That’s just something else to learn, not something easier. Working at McDonalds can seem hard on your first day, but you don’t try upheaving the system on how to flip a freaking burger. Point is, you’ve still got to learn something, so why change it because “it’s hard!“?

Just watch their severely outdated training videos, you'll be okay.

Just watch their severely outdated training videos, you’ll be okay.

Same thing when it comes to the names Keirsey gave. After getting past my initial skepticism, I came to think of my own type as being the best. Because it is!…To me. And your type should be the best to you, blah blah blah. But we’ve got to learn how to understand the terms on how the author is using them, not what we’ve come to associate those terms with.

I’ve seemingly shifted in and out of Keirsey himself, I guess what I’m saying is that my introduction to MBTI didn’t come with an intense disdain for how Keirsey handled things; his school of thought is one of my favorites. And I didn’t get that he favored intuitives over sensors and neither did my sensor friends. I really think that people need to change, not the teachings of a guy who devoted his life to bettering himself and others.

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59 Responses to “MBTI: Keirsey’s Intuitive Bias”

  1. Jenna Says:

    Uggggh sensors are better at all things practical — doing their hair, washing their cars, directions, paying bills, relaxing, socializing, fitting in…can’t we acknowledge that intuitives–people who live in their heads–are more intelligent and insightful and you know, that stuff that happens in your head? I’ve spent my whole life feeling ostracized and belittled by sensors; never mind the fact that I read Moby Dick for fun when I was 14 and have about 40 more IQ points than the average American. Let us have that…seeing as Sensors have everything else. And by the way, of course it’s more rare to be an Intuitive! Think about everyone in your family and you’ll likely count one Intuitive for every ten members. It’s more rare because it’s totally maladaptive. Repressed Sensing makes for an incredibly difficult way of life.

    • Taylor Says:

      This isn’t really about who’s better at what; more about Keirsey’s supposed bias isn’t really a bias, it’s people not being able to bring together their view of the world with how MBTI, and more specifically Keirsey, defines it.

    • fatalfuryguy Says:

      I read Moby dick when I was like six. Read all the Three musketeers around the same time, same with Jules Verne books, John Steinbeck books, Hg wells. I was bored with reading by the time I was 18.
      Oh yeah, am a sensor.
      Don’t wanna hear excuses for your “maladaptive-ness”.

      • yojimbo Says:

        fatalfuryguy, you’ll always “score” better. Be the champ and adapt to all societal established conventions, but when the shortsightedness of human societies leads to the destruction of the environment and itself, it can’t be disregarded that acting now and thinking later has more than a little to do with it.

        With that power of favor you are granted through adapting better, it would be nice if you were capable of humility in a way that was at least aware of what others think vs presuming the lack of adaptability is just a marker for “full of shit”. Such a demeanor is truly the most prolific means I know of….

        • fatalfuryguy Says:

          Capable of humility? Like how intjs are humble? Or entjs?
          Ok, I’ll keep that in mind(not really)
          Funny, you’re blaming humanity’s shortcomings on sensor. According to most intuitive types online, every great historical leader and their mothers were Intuitives. mmm

          • yojimbo Says:

            They way you choose to word your comments is inflammatory. What’s the point? Why are you fixated on establishing that someone is below you? Winning a superiority contest distracts from the potential of furthering a potentially insightful discussion. I thought that was the point of these blogs. Discussion about the types.

            When anyone takes any “type” of any kind and chooses to suggest bias towards one side and not another, that individual is acting in a way that is bigoted.

            I personally see the value of both sides of the coin and think that putting either as a whole down, detracts from the point of the entry.

            If what I initially posted sounded like I was saying that sensors are crappy or what have you. That was not my intention AND I apologize IF this is actually true. I just hope tho, that you try to reread what I’ve said & perhaps see that I’m just attempting to depict a bigger picture that is balanced.

        • Ethics are weirdly disconnected from type. The minister at my church almost became an astronaut. Then he “threw it all away” to serve God and the poor. He is an ENTJ with a value system that, if adopted universally, could end poverty and heal brokenness. And look at the ESFJ elderly woman who spends most of her time acting in service to others–frying bacon for the grandkids or taking an old sick friend to the doctor–without much a thought as to what a saint she is.

          As to your second point, yes, there is a lot of humility that goes into accepting one’s inferior function. No one likes to look it in the face. One ought check one’s privilege, well and often. If for no other reason than it makes food taste better.

          I think the fartflyguy is trolling.

          • fatalfuryguy Says:

            Since you have no clue what you’re talking about, I doubt your typing skills are anything to go by, so I’ll go ahead and assume that you don’t know an Entj from an isfj

            • yojimbo Says:

              Since you’re infinitely predisposed to disagreement with a “target” despite reason I’ll go ahead and assume that you are a troll.

    • yojimbo Says:

      Yup, Jenna is dead on. That’s the crux of things for better and for worse. The hitch I find personally is that while sensors are more commonly essential for any given situation, their nature of being more “moment” oriented, often leaves them to be incapable of considering insights or wisdom’s that an intuitive will be more capable of contributing.

      Personally I believe that it’s this factor that causes things along the lines of the Soccer Riots or Large Scale Environmental neglect due to “fiscal priority”.

      I’m not really blaming anyone, but if you break the facts down to their brass tacs, one cannot help but realize this: Stopping in the middle of a moment to think about what you are doing can cost you big time & that cost might be irreversible. Conversely, acting and moving forward without giving consideration to the bigger picture is actually worse, but seldom in any manner that is immediately evident. Consequently, “out of sight, out of mind” is a prolific demeanor.

      In any instance, the guy who has a better grasp on the moment is going to appear to be “worth following.” There’s no getting around that, but in order to not be ignorant, one has to remove themselves from the moment & reflect. With all of this on the table, it’s no surprise to me how awful people become when they are in larger crowds. And while I frequently feel like most sensors look at me like I have 5 heads when addressing actual long term issues, I don’t inherently return the sentiment, because I’ve always been able to be aware of the fact that they’re both: more immediately on top of things than me & only that way because they are remaining vigilant to the immediate reality we’re both in.

      I hope to build on this thought process further as I become older.

      • fatalfuryguy Says:

        Sooo, by agreeing with Jenna, you’re saying that intuitive types are by default handicapped and meek and thus should just be awarded the prize of smartest because of this?
        Like how cripple people get disability checks each month because they can’t work?
        Or how little league teams that lose still get a medal for participating?
        Ok gotcha

        • Reminds me of certain demographics who are often heard saying “let us have this” and “check your priveledge.”

          Victim mindset.

        • yojimbo Says:

          Nope, that’s not what I’m saying. Try rereading what I said with an open mind. Instead of what you already “know.” Or presume I am saying. I promise with all things considered in my statement above, it’s a balanced post. No bias.

          • fatalfuryguy Says:

            So now we’re stupid, and can’t comprehend your comments? Ok

            • yojimbo Says:

              Personally upon rereading an article or story I find that certain subtext and layers of meaning come together more clearly, I only emphasize this because it seems to me that you think that I’m downplaying sensors which is not the case. Furthermore, I’m definitely not calling you stupid or incapable of comprehension.

              For the record all I am essentially believe is that each of the four perceptive functions: [si, se, ni, ne] retain particular signature qualities which in the bigger picture can all serve different meaningful purposes. There IS I believe a certain amount of “math”, “formula”, “flow”, or “music” to how these functions cultivate and are regarded within our social cultures. Understanding these factors seems to be an enlightening pursuit.

              I am genuinely interested in discussing this^ topic in further detail. Perhaps considering the pros and cons of each from a spectral/cosmic POV.

              Again, I apologize that my reply has insulted you & am still willing to further discuss said subject matter as it actually does intrigue me.

          • fatalfuryguy Says:

            So, whoever calls you out for being an ignorant typist bigot, is a troll. Ok gotcha.

            • yojimbo Says:

              Are you capable of compromise? Is insulting people the only reason you post?

          • fatalfuryguy Says:

            You’re re reading your own posts. How humble, no ego there

            • yojimbo Says:

              You are intentionally avoiding resolution. You’re a troll and I can’t afford to attempt to reason with you anymore. So go ahead and insult me one more time. That’s why you’re here anyway.

        • You seem like a troll…but you’re very funny! And yes! That is kind of what I am saying. But I would use a different analogy (something less inflammatory)…take a person with Aspergers who is insanely good at numbers. You wouldn’t give him a blue ribbon, but you would acknowledge that he is much, much better at math than most people. You could even venture to say he’s more cerebral than most people. Or you know, that episode of Louis C.K. where that hot chick won’t stop interrupting his set. He’s really mean to her onstage. Then after the set, when she confronts him about it, he says that comedy is all he has. She gets to have everything else, but she doesn’t get to ruin his one good thing. I think a lot of Intuitives feel that way. We don’t get to be smooth and ease through life. We don’t get to be normal; we can only try hard to pass, and we know we never will. And don’t give me that crap about there is no normal. I am so tired of that postmodern nonsense. I’ve seen a lot of normal; I’ve gone deep into the heart of many normal things. But there doesn’t need to be some great equalizer saying that all people are as good at all things. Intuitives are more intuitive. You don’t acknowledge that as an act of pity or charity…you acknowledge it because it is the defining feature of this person. Growing up, I remember hearing so many times, “Sure, you’re book smart, but you don’t have any common sense.” And I can’t imagine turning around and saying, “You know, you’re pretty street savvy and popular, but you aren’t very sharp huh?”

          • fatalfuryguy Says:

            Sounds like you’re making excuses for sucking at life.
            Tell that to the limbless wrestler who wins medals, or the blind kayaker I saw on tv the other day.
            Quit making yourself into such a victim already Jesus! All this whining! Nothing that you’ve said sounds intelligent yet I’m supposed to buy that you’re intelligent and are entitled to being acknowledge as intelligent just because you read Moby Dick at 14?
            Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

          • yojimbo Says:

            Also, Jenna I know that episode of Louie, it’s a really good episode and does in fact perfectly convey the conundrum that we’re both discussing here, despite the incessant attention grabber’s time consuming energy depleting interjections.

            fatalfuryguy, if you’re ever interested in talking about issues in a way that doesn’t serve as personal ego masturbation, I am no grudge holder. Life is short & throwing shit in contest is not real contest. For it is devoid of legitimate reason and only empowered through the cost of self esteem. It’s like living your life in a way that you strive to be “more like a supermarket tabloid” then me. hahaha. I could take each of your troll posts cut out the key jabs and throw them on the front page of the The National Enquirer, Star, or The Globe. It’s fecal flinging at best. Cheap.

          • Sairor Says:

            I don’t know Jenna, you make it sound like some sort of consolation price society owes you.

            To paraphrase Tywin Lannister: “if you have to tell people you’re clever, you’re not very clever”.

            On the other hand, I give you this: Intuitives tend to be insightful precisely because they’re a minority and their voice is less likely to be heard. They make you see things from a different point of view.

            That doesn’t necessarly makes you guys always right though.

            My personal belief is that while you intuitives tend to be the promoters of change, we sensors are the filters that separate the promising ideas from the shitty ones.

            • yojimbo Says:

              I definitely agree with that. I feel that a good symbiosis between the two is actually where great synergies can often form. Being more in tune with the moment, Se’s are able to accurately filter what does or doesn’t work in a particular instance & Si’s can provide examples of when things did or didn’t work. While Ni’s can share a whole buffet of potential concepts and Ne’s can focus on any factor while considering it’s relevance towards a target focal point.

              Regardless of the pairings the N’s and the S’s have so many complimentary possibilities with how they can coordinate and optimize theories and plans. It just takes each being able to understand the blind spots of the other while focusing to compromise and cooperate. Which can sometimes be a challenge, especially if one or the other is unaware of these factors. When that’s the case trust can be very difficult to retain.

  2. Thank you! I find myself accidentally being biased sometimes and I try so hard not to but ughh… I’ve had so many horrible relationship problems with Sensors the second I hear someone is one I unintentionally start to turn myself off to them. But I need to not assume I’m going to class with every Sensor or even worse assume they are “less” than me.

    Also my list of fake INTJ and INFJ wannabes keeps growing and it’s making me avoid talking about MBTI completely.

  3. This analysis is hilariously spot-on. I particularly love what you said about “how people get into MBTI while disagreeing with every description of their claimed type.” Nothing drives me up the wall more than this.

  4. justcuriousperson Says:

    Yo Taylor! I’ve been regularly reading your blog for a while now, and I have to say that your articles on MBTI, and other stuff, are pretty funny and great! I’m just curious though, what’s your MBTI type?

  5. That big battle in the comment section just goes to show that people cannot respect other types. Taylor, I apologize on behalf of all people.

    This is a brilliant article, thank you for writing this. I’ve learned about type all at once – I obviously know most about my own type, but never stopped reading of other types. And frankly, the more I grow, the more jealous I get of sensors. Sensors are more “down-to-earth”, or “terrestrial” as Keirsey puts it. I can rock the crap out of a philosophy paper, but I stink as remembering details or doing anything practical.
    There is no “smartest” type – all simply different kinds of smart.
    I love being an INFJ – I think everyone should love their tyoe, But when you learn about yourself and what you are, you also learn about what you are not, and why everyone else is so vital.

    With regards to the comments above, about sensors simply following the herd… Definitely not true. This blog looks a lot at types of heroes. Many lawyers, who want to change the legal system, are likely sensors. There have even been sensor philosophers, most notably Thomas Hobbes.

    • yojimbo Says:

      I don’t feel properly represented, if I’m thrown into a pile labeled “cannot respect other types.” I also believe that each one is a color of the rainbow and deserves a chance to be heard. The only point Jenna was trying to make is that due to the very nature of how they function, sensors do “more often” have a louder voice in the world. If you watch the episode of Louie that she cites, it truly is an accurate allegory of the point we share.

      I don’t however, hate anyone because of this, & it isn’t a false ego inspired argument either. It’s just a factor that I have throughout life observed over and over again.

      Personally I agree with what you’re saying about there being no smartest type, but there are subtle inner workings influenced by the differences of si se ni ne & to act like this is just an egocentric snowflake complaint is excluding a part of the bigger picture. This notion is for the most part one of sociological math or music & perhaps even a primary means of motivation for many anthropological trends.

      If you cannot see the difference between the posts me and Jenna shared from the nature and antagonistically worded responses we received, you might be overlooking something. My retorts did include antagonism, but ALL of those notions are made necessary out of the defense of those points that were attacked recklessly, & I genuinely understand and believe them. I have nothing on a personal level to gain from voicing this opinion, but I also believe that just lying down when someone wants to step on you WHILE you are speaking of factors you know to be true, does no good for the future.

      • fatalfuryguy Says:

        You talk about life experience as if you have any.

        • yojimbo Says:

          What is your problem man?

          • fatalfuryguy Says:

            You. And Jenna too. Talking out of your backsides. Infected
            Special snowflake syndrome

            • yojimbo Says:

              The very nature of your reply here. It’s textbook “high school” behavior. Do you understand what I’m saying here? While, the subject matter of your comments do loosely address whatever you’re discussing, they primarily orient around insults intended to trigger a frenzied mental reaction which is most often preceded by conflict. It actually is the same exact strategy that Red Top supermarket tabloids adhere to when they create their headlines. Are you capable of addressing what I’ve just asked? Or are you going to just attack me below the belt once more? You can actually tell the points in our exchanges where I hit something of vital meaning, because instead of replying to those notions, you just combine everything else into an intentionally misrepresented spin of what I’ve conveyed and then close with some “witty” sarcastic statement like “Ok gotcha”.

              So for like… the fourth or whatever time I’ve lost count at this point… If you are interested in actually discussing the subject matter, I don’t hold grudges. Would you like to bring this above the belt and actually discuss it in a manner that addresses the topic, instead of attacking me or other forum posters on a personal level?

  6. It might be presumptuous of me, but I might have made the comment you replied to here. Which I just saw after writing an excessivly long reply on your newbs vs leet post.

    In other news keirsey DOES have an explicit bias for Artisans. His chapter on Artisan children throws quite a lot of shit onto guardian parents. So I would argue that Keirsey doesn’t have a bias for Intuitives as much as one against Guardians. Specifally the rational guardians.

    Which ties into my earlier commment that the rational guardian/sentinel type descriptions are crap and need to be rewritten to account for all the awesome stuff rational guardians can do.

  7. JianGeGe Says:

    I’m going to second Paul’s comments and apologize on behalf of the ridiculous war this comment section has devolved into. Funny how it’s the topics that force individuals to confront the ways they make others uncomfortable that seem to draw the most ire and self-defensiveness.

    If I might add ever so slightly to the point you’ve made in the first half of this post, I would argue that the roots of the problems regarding “Type Chauvinism” lie in the nature of the MBTI itself and the ways in which undeveloped individuals (and aren’t we all undeveloped to some extent?) choose to reinterpret that very nature.

    MBTI is a tool designed to categorize based on characteristics over which there is no implied greater value between the characteristics unless one is making a judgement within the paradigms of a specific characteristic itself. The MBTI is a horizontal model and thus the categories it introduces are intended to be taken as no more valuable than their neighbors.

    Human nature, however, tends towards the desire to ascribe value to categories, even if the intent behind their creation is that they are purely descriptive. The MBTI model stops becoming a horizontal model in their eyes, and instead becomes a vertical model, wherein individuals categorized within a certain group are inherently more valuable than others categorized within another group.

    I maintain that people are at their least reasonable when they are speaking within the context of a group they identify with based on a perceived ‘exceptionalism’ of the group. I distinguish exceptionalism from pride in that while the latter constitutes that some form of action is manifested either externally or internally by the individual that s/he can be proud of, the former believes that pride should be based on one’s identity and experiences rather than one’s action. Putting it succinctly, pride demands autonomy while exceptionalism exists in spite of a lack of autonomy.

    What I’m getting at is that the reason why “Type Chauvinists” exist is because it’s EASY to be one, and it absolves them of responsibility. Why go through the effort of actually doing something to earn respect when you can be simply given it based on a quality over which you had to do nothing to gain? So long as one can attach a simple descriptor such as ‘scarcity’ with implied value, one need not actually do anything to receive value.

    Note how the arguments of the perpetrators of the aforementioned comment war in this topic base their value upon who they are and how the world has acted against them rather than on any actions they have taken to elevate their situation.

    Bitter a pill as it may be to take, I believe the best that can be done with them is to not do anything to them. Advice given is rarely taken, and experience is the best teacher. Let them carry this belief, and let the weight of reality either pressure them into shedding it for a more beneficial load or crush them for their hubris.

    • yojimbo Says:

      I apologized and offered to move on [like 4 times]. I also expressed that I see how there is no such thing as a “best type.”

      The reason I fought is because I actually genuinely understand and believe in what I was trying to convey, it had nothing to do with my ego, or a type bias, & everything to do with my understanding of social patterns that I’ve gathered through life experience.

      Thanks, but I don’t need you to apologize on my behalf. I am passionate about my beliefs, but I am not a chauvinist.

      If you can give me good reason to understand why what I believe is wrong, I will as fairly as possible give your input complete consideration.

      • fatalfuryguy Says:

        Dude shut the hell up already! You make no sense. You’re the definition of an elitist typist bigot.
        Just keep your mouth shut and try to actually learn about mbti as a whole and not just about how unique you are

        • yojimbo Says:

          I don’t think I’m unique. The fact that that’s your opening statement once again proves that you don’t even try to understand anything that I say. You just presume I’m self entitled because that’s the notion that you locked your teeth on all the way at the beginning of this disgusting exchange & have since either been incapable of or refused to “consider alternate possibilities”.

          Well guess what man, that is not my fault. I am completely open to discussion and am always interested in differences of opinion. I am capable of compromise, are you?

          big·ot
          ˈbiɡət/
          noun
          a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.

          [Go ahead champ, type “bigot” into google & that’s what you’ll find.]

          I have been very proactively studying, listening, and learning all about the types for a fair amount of time now, I have not once claimed and still do not claim to know it all.

          Furthermore, “asshole” if someone makes some type of statement that appears to be incorrect as far as I understand it. I don’t become aggressive and insult them about it.

          I am extremely open to reason even if said reason doesn’t match what I know, & I don’t even get how you would think I’m elitist given how many times I’ve said “I’m sorry, let’s start over and move on.” Is that what elitists do? Why don’t you pull your ego out of your butt so YOU can start making sense.

          Tho…. I guess if I had a peanut gallery kissing every below the belt insult I dispensed at strangers on a blog I might eventually get lazy with my standards for “making sense” too.

          I will not shut up, just because you don’t want to try & reason with me. What are you, lord of the internet? Get bent.

          Besides trying the bury the hatchet with you countless unsuccessful times, I also haven’t said anything to deserve the type of treatment I’ve received from you.

          • yojimbo Says:

            Taylor, you’re blog is genuinely top notch & if it does matter to you… Then I am definately sorry that I contributed to blowing it the hell up.

            • Taylor Says:

              No, I don’t care man. Freedom of speech and all that. Argue, agree, that’s on you guys. I make the posts, I don’t own the material.

            • yojimbo Says:

              Hah, I figured. Hey also, is your email still out of commission?

            • Taylor Says:

              I responded on the elite/newcomer post but to sm it up- yeah. I’ve had to call Yahoo to try and get my password reset but thye put me on hold for 30 minutes and I get fed up and hang up.

    • JianGeGe,

      PREACH!

      • yojimbo Says:

        Paul, you’re such an ass kissing vulture. Picking at the corpses of the battle field to gain brownie points with the WordPress author.

        Capitalizing without hesitation on the casualties of this ugly conflict. “Taylor, I apologize for them Taylor. Gosh Taylor.” Hahahaha, what a lame opportunist.

    • Taylor Says:

      Your last paragraph probably sums it up the best. Good points made.

  8. swellbeth Says:

    I completely agree with the article. I personally get kind of annoyed by the titles types get, like me being a “Mastermind”. Now, yes, I plan things and organize things and whatnot, and I could make a few decent long-term plans if I wanted to, but I am no Artemis Fowl. I simply can’t do that. It isn’t possible. I think those titles, while helpful to someone new to MBTI, are unnecessary and constraining once you’re familiar. They can restrict you even more than the letters “INTJ” do in the first place.

  9. yojimbo Says:

    Agree, disagree. This is the clip. I feel it illustrates situations that do often times happen.

    Maybe it isn’t due to the differences of types like sensing or intuition, I personally theorize that it does have something to do with that, but am not married to this notion. Regardless of why, it does happen & I’m intrigued at the prospect of understanding why. The point of this post, is to promote discussion on that issue. Not to declare that one thing is better then another thing.

    FatalFuryGuy. I AM TRULY SORRY. Can we PLEASE actually talk about this discussion instead of spiraling further down into another vortex of negative bs?

  10. Kristen Says:

    Holy shit look at this comment section. Intuitives are alright but they need to understand they can’t survive as a species without sensors. Intuitives are like aliens from another planet as far as I can tell.

  11. azurestratos Says:

    Nice post OP. Agreed, too many of these things.
    When I started mbti, I just took it as a joke (the nicknames and rivalry). Then again, there are people too into it.

    Seriously people, everyone have the brain fuctions, just learn how to use it.

    My INTP brother is just as active playing football, as I do (sensor).
    We both play games a lot too.

    Sure he’s great in coding, and I can’t understand C++.
    Then again I’m better at physics. Both are intuitive heavy subjects.

    In practice, the lines are not fixed. Being of one type just means you have a head start. That’s all.

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